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photoshop fixing help please... - 8/26/2008 10:19:35 PM   
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I usually shoot early morning and dusk, trying my hardest to avoid harsh lighting conditions.  However, when I'm out and about is when I can usually shoot so I do my best to try to make do. Mostly I dont even bother because I can't stand it if my photos look washed out so they go delete, poof....  never to be seen again with their only crime being one corner washed out.  I have hardly taken any pics this summer because of it!

I have a nikon coolpix 4500 which has the capability to change lenses but I haven't seen I can use a filter. Someone told me I can't with this model.   Editing some photos in my photoshop elements 6 program is of some help, and I stick to only fixing the opacity but that does not do anything to help washout areas that are unaviodable when shooting a pic.

here is an example:





With me so far?  I hope so for it is not easy for me to explain things.

OK, so I know you can select areas in a photo to fix, with that tool that puts doted lines around them. 

I got as far as that, then I got lost!  What is next? 

Stephanie

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RE: photoshop fixing help please... - 8/27/2008 2:02:01 AM   
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I am not sure with photoshop elements. On photoshop ps3 you would then go down to your layers work box and click on the little half white half black circle on the bottom which would open up a menu and would choose hue/saturation. Then slide the saturation bar as far along as what you want. If it is too harsh of a line then move over to your tools on the left of your work screen and open up a soft edged large brush and set the opacity for about 50 or 60 percent and brush a little along the edge of what you have already done so it gradates a little more. You can also choose color balance or brightness and contrast amoung other things from that same menu and apply in the same way.

I hope that helps. I just have no idea with elements what tools or layers and such you have to work with

Where is that photoshop know it all muriel?

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RE: photoshop fixing help please... - 8/27/2008 6:37:41 AM   
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I have Elements 5.5....I would do pretty much what Heide said, but the adjustments are at the top, under enhancments. There are all kinds of adjustments to be made within that area. It will give you choices in this case it would be adjust color or adjust lighting.
You could also look at the top bar and use....filter/adjustments/photo filter.  A pretty simple way to warm the photo.

I agree with Heide though maybe Muriel or someone will come along and explain or have a better idea.

Play around with photoshop Steph. It's such a valuable tool. I know very little about it and think it's hard, but I learn a little bit at a time. If you mess up, you can always go back to Edit/undo...or Edit/revert which will get you back to your original photo

PS....I try to not shoot midafternoon for the same reason.

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RE: photoshop fixing help please... - 8/27/2008 8:41:00 AM   
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Great ideas......and will work quite well. Another approach would be to open a gradient and add that layer to it and see if it fixes that bottom a bit.  It might.

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RE: photoshop fixing help please... - 8/27/2008 8:47:24 AM   
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Thanks everyone!  I was kinda hoping to try to fix just one part of the picture not the whole picture.  At one point I had the section of the photo seperated from the rest of it but then I couldn't figure out what to do next.  I will try the saturation suggestion!

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RE: photoshop fixing help please... - 8/27/2008 10:53:00 AM   
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I would do pretty much what Heide said, but the adjustments are at the top, under enhancments.

They're in both places in the regular Photoshop. You can either apply the adjustments to the whole image, make a selection (with any tool that will produce the "marching ants" – there are several ways to select) and adjust that, or make adjustments (the same tools are available: levels, curves, hue/saturation, etc) in the Layers palette. Confused enough yet?

Heide, when you make adjustments in the Layers palette, always duplicate the layer and adjust that. Then if you don't like the results, you can delete the new layer or make it invisible. Or make any number of other ones and pick the one you like best. It's just too easy to hit Save and then you're stuck.

Another way in the full version of PS (I don't know if Elements has this or not): go to Image>Adjustments>Shadows/Highlights and move the sliders around. That works well when you have an image that is too contrasty, or somebody's face is in shadow. Be careful not to overdo though, as it can make things look unnatural.

You can always lessen the effect of whatever you do to a layer by moving the Opacity slider. Does Elements have Layers?

Steph, in this case, you need to isolate the areas you want to darken, and then try various adjustments. They will only apply to the selected areas.

ETA: I took your photo into the Shadows/Highlights adjustment and the right-hand portion of it doesn't seem to have enough information to do anything with. You can always select those areas and fill them with a light blue or whatever, and no one will know the difference.

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RE: photoshop fixing help please... - 8/27/2008 12:34:09 PM   
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Another way in the full version of PS (I don't know if Elements has this or not): go to Image>Adjustments>Shadows/Highlights and move the sliders around. That works well when you have an image that is too contrasty, or somebody's face is in shadow. Be careful not to overdo though, as it can make things look unnatural.



Yes elements does have the sliders.

PS....I can't grasp layers so I use the sliders all of the time

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RE: photoshop fixing help please... - 8/27/2008 12:46:42 PM   
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I meant the Shadows/Highlights option under Adjustments.
Lisa, layers are wonderful! They let you compare effects, filters or anything you want to experiment with! And they keep you from messing up! Think of them as pieces of tracing paper on top of one another.
Mmm, do we need a Photoshop workshop?

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RE: photoshop fixing help please... - 8/27/2008 1:30:22 PM   
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Mmm, do we need a Photoshop workshop?



  Not a bad idea Muriel, if you want to do it. Because I'm the worst teacher EVER !!

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RE: photoshop fixing help please... - 8/27/2008 1:35:17 PM   
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I'll see if I can scare up a copy of Elements for Mac somewhere to see what other people are dealing with, and I'll give it some thought.


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RE: photoshop fixing help please... - 8/27/2008 1:50:21 PM   
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    oh Steph, now that's a toughy! There is not enough information in the bottom right of that image to work with, it might as well be blank or all white. Even a good portion of the bell is lost. (let me think, think, think...??)

    This will need three layers of a photoshop cake to fix.

     1- remove all the background

     2- replace the lower right side of the bell with a reversed section of the left side of the bell

     3- replace the original background with another, trees, sky, color something else

  Or you go back and shoot it in the early morning or at sunset ( thats my smartass response)

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RE: photoshop fixing help please... - 8/27/2008 2:37:59 PM   
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Mmm, do we need a Photoshop workshop?


Yes Yes Yes Please please..... Photoshop for dummies may be to hard for me, so make it simple please!

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RE: photoshop fixing help please... - 8/27/2008 2:41:06 PM   
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I would love a photoshop workshop.

The most difficult thing for me is when I search for information on photoshop the programs are all different. The screen shots are different.....ect. So me being my lazy self will give up and try to do it myself by just playing with it. If I get frustrated with it I just give up!

So back to......I would love a photoshop workshop.

ETA.....Photoshop for dummies...lol Joe! (I like you, I'm so glad you are hanging out with us)

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RE: photoshop fixing help please... - 8/27/2008 5:13:30 PM   
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I can do a workshop or two. I have been learning lots of new things. How about everyone contact Muriel who I nominate to be in charge and she coordinate a several different workshops - maybe a new one each week? I think it would be of great value to the community

Even the basic stuff would be appreciated I am sure.

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RE: photoshop fixing help please... - 8/27/2008 7:07:49 PM   
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Signing up for Photoshop workshop.  I could teach the first...opening an image in photo shop...cropping, maybe the most minor adjustment, and print!  How's that?  (just kidding, I fumble my way to say the least....)

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RE: photoshop fixing help please... - 8/27/2008 10:27:31 PM   
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Thanks everyone!  Kevin,my thought was to go back and reshoot the bell too, ...great smartass minds and alla that good stuff!

I know how to open the photo,  make layers and compare and all that, but that's pretty much it  I mostly only play with lighting using mostly color dodge, multiply and screen and those buttons.  I did figure out how to erase a few unsightly things in a photo not that long ago and posted it, so I figured out the eyedropper thing....but YES PLEASE!!!!!  A photoshop workshop would be oh so wonderful please and thank you!

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RE: photoshop fixing help please... - 8/28/2008 1:12:04 PM   
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yes photoshop workshop!!!

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