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RE: What paint do you use? - 10/15/2009 11:23:51 PM

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I wanted to like Golden since Heather raved about them but I think it is all about your painting style for which paint works best for you. I am just itchy to try those now Vicki

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RE: What paint do you use? - 10/15/2009 11:46:22 PM

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Oh I hope you do, Heide! Let me know what you think of them - I'd given up on acrylics until I discovered them. Right now I use them primarily as underpainting but have completed a few (including Daddy's Girl) in just acrylics. I'm still experimenting & my goal is to be able to work as well with them as with oils.

I've posted this before too, but while we're talking paints, does anyone else here like the Genesis heat-set paints? I could do a commercial for those too.

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RE: What paint do you use? - 10/15/2009 11:59:47 PM

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oh yeah - what are those?

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RE: What paint do you use? - 10/16/2009 12:33:32 AM

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Genesis paints are very unique - they refer to them as "heat set oils" yet they thin with rubbing alcohol. They won't dry until you bake them (in a toaster, regular oven, or a special oven they sell too). There is absolutely NO odor, and they're thixotropic(sp), which means that they're a little stiff until you mix them up a bit, then they're very creamy & develop an oil-like consistency. The kit I got came with a dryer (to spot dry some areas, like a hairdryer) and a video, which was interesting & inspiring.

What amazes me is that they truly never do dry out (although a painting may feel dry to the touch). I first got a set maybe 6 or 7 years ago, tried them & then went on to something else. When I dug them out again a few months ago, the paints on the palette from years ago were still usable! Because of this there's minimal waste, they come in little jars so you can use every bit. Also since they clean up easily w/alcohol, they're portable if you work small, I use a small baking dish as the palette (you need to use glass or porcelain). When I did the two I've posted below, I worked on them for a bit in my front yard so I could paint while keeping an eye on my daughter.

They're not cheap, although you can find them on sale or even on ebay, they seem to be popular with doll artists for some reason.

Again it depends on how you paint, I paint sparingly and small, I could make these last a long, long time.

Here are a couple of pieces I did with Genesis earlier this year (both ACEO's on masonite):

This is the first one I did back in 2003 or 2004ish:

Almost forgot, here's a link to their site: http://www.genesisartistcolors.com/

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RE: What paint do you use? - 10/16/2009 8:41:57 AM

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Is this the paint Vicki?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Lot-of-6-Genesis-Heat-Set-Oil-Paints-Reborn-Baby-New_W0QQitemZ130336474588QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item1e58a8c5dc

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RE: What paint do you use? - 10/16/2009 9:08:19 AM

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Is this the paint Vicki?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Lot-of-6-Genesis-Heat-Set-Oil-Paints-Reborn-Baby-New_W0QQitemZ130336474588QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item1e58a8c5dc

Yes that's it - the silver must be new, I'll have to give that a try next time I place an order!

I had purchased some from that same seller as well, some colors I didn't already have. The way these colors work is that a lot of them are just tints, so if you get the darker shade you can just mix with white to get the lighter tint - I believe the higher the color, the lighter it is.

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RE: What paint do you use? - 10/16/2009 10:29:04 AM

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ORIGINAL: GreenBiscuit

(wondering if Muriel is going to share the name of the color she can't live without....)

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light blue violet

Strangely enough, I think it's called Light Blue Violet

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RE: What paint do you use? - 10/16/2009 11:15:05 AM

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I usually prefer to use Golden Acrylics (Heavy Body) but it's just so damn expensive!! So I thought I'd start a thread on what paint everyone uses.

I'm hoping to discover a cheaper paint that is comparable to Golden Acrylics in consistency. Help!!

Come share ye knowledge!

The Goldens are my acrylics of preference, too. Here's a question: do you have a local art association you can join? Because I belong one of my local orgs, I'm eligible for discounts at my fave local art supply store. Plus, their prices in general are much better than the big box places like Utretcht, so the discount makes it that much sweeter.

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RE: What paint do you use? - 10/16/2009 11:36:44 AM

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I had thought of that too but they don't offer any discounts anywhere except for the classes they offer. Still may join sometime in the future, but for now I'd rather not spend $30.00 to join!

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RE: What paint do you use? - 10/16/2009 12:03:24 PM

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You had asked me before if I do an underpainting. Yes, always. I add a thin layer of gesso to my pre-gessoed canvas or board, then I do an underpainting, then I layer on after that. I've never had a problem with liquitex not adhering to the canvas, but it could just be my process.
Interesting stuff about the other products.

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RE: What paint do you use? - 10/16/2009 12:36:09 PM

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I always guesso my canvas even if it says it is already primed and I have never had a problem with liquitex adhering.

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RE: What paint do you use? - 10/16/2009 12:58:46 PM

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I used to use W & N Finity acrylic (much different than the Galleria series, which really, really isn't good at all, imho) but I've been transitioning gradually to Liquitex Heavy Body, which I am very happy with. I had to thin the W&N a lot, and it was hard to strike a good balance. I've only used Goldens a handful of times, but I haven't seen a quality in it that I'm not getting with my other brands.

Genesis paints are very popular with doll artists as they are heat-set paints, which allows you to blush polymer figures and things before baking or firing for a natural look. I haven't tried any (still working on my polyclay skillset before investing) but they seem interesting.

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RE: What paint do you use? - 10/16/2009 7:37:38 PM

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I am currently using copper metallic... well just copper. Sometimes silver. Gold is too expensive to do anything on spec at the moment.

Oh, paints. never mind....

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RE: What paint do you use? - 10/16/2009 10:45:01 PM

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I am currently using Liquitex heavy body. I watch the sales on cheapjoes.com and dickblick.com to cut down on expense. I also subscribe to Hobbylobby.com and Michaels.com to get their coupons. One day when I win the lottery, I may try a more expensive brand to see the difference.

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RE: What paint do you use? - 10/17/2009 12:31:19 AM

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It seems like mostly acrylic painters replied to this, any oil painters have preferences?

I use a variety of brands, although I probably have most in Windsor Newton & a lot of Grumbacher too, which I had picked up on sale when Treasure Island went out of business years ago. For the most part I don't notice a significant difference between brands like WN & the very high end brands, with the exception of Williamsburg paints, which unfortunately are VERY expensive so I only have a few tubes. Those are by far my favorites, I did a post on them awhile ago too.

I'm curious to try the M Graham walnut oil paints too, but I think they dry very slowly. http://www.mgraham.com/

I'm an art-supplyaholic, I feel compelled to try almost everything.

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RE: What paint do you use? - 10/17/2009 10:53:08 AM

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I also subscribe to Hobbylobby.com and Michaels.com to get their coupons.

I do that too Torrie!

When I began painting, many years ago, it was with oils. One painting is still hanging in our living room, but I couldn't tell you what I used.

It was probably Grumbacher since most shops carry those and they are usually affordable.

I gave up oils because of the mess and smell. But a couple years ago I tried Winsor and Newton water-mixable oils and was quite impressed.

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RE: What paint do you use? - 10/17/2009 12:32:57 PM

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I had tried the water mixables too but I found them very hard to work with, maybe I didn't give them enough of a chance. I ended up giving mine away, one of the few times I've actually gotten rid of an art supply.

Anyone use/try alkyds? I have a set of those too, lol. I need a second life just to use up my art supplies.

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RE: What paint do you use? - 10/24/2009 11:10:14 PM

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Well i listened to what everyone said on the different acrylic paints,and Vicky,i had read about the Interactive paints but when you praised them like you did,
I ordered a set plus a few more yesterday from DB,now i can't wait to get them.i priced the golden,and heard pro's and con's but i think they cost about the most,so its best i don't try them.
The ones i got are not that cheap either,the cobalt was real high.
Wish me luck

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RE: What paint do you use? - 10/24/2009 11:20:28 PM

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Oh I hope you like them Christi, just be sure to read everything, even go to their website too. My initial mistake (I'd actually bought them more than a year before I started using them regularly) was in just using them like regular acrylics. They can be used that way I suppose, but regular acrylics never worked for me. It wasn't until after I'd read up on the various techniques that I was able to do anything decent with them.

I wouldn't worry about the cobalt, I find that cobalt isn't a great color (although I thought it came in the set - I have a tube & wouldn't have bought it separately).

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RE: What paint do you use? - 10/24/2009 11:40:18 PM

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I hope plenty of how to's come with the set,if not i will look them up,i've looked at these for some time and since you use oils and like these,i'm hoping i will to.the blue that comes in the set now is ultramarine blue so i ordered prussian blue hue and a few others,i'm probably gonna wish i'd got more white,i always use a lot.

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